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April 19, 2024

Why Every Podcaster Needs a Website: Insights from Dave Jackson

In this episode of "Your Podcast Website," host Dave Jackson emphasizes the importance of having a dedicated website for podcasters. He argues that relying solely on social media platforms can be precarious, as they are subject to changes and shutdowns that could disconnect creators from their audiences. Using examples like MP3.com, Friendster, and MySpace, Dave illustrates the risks of building a presence on platforms that podcasters don't own. He advocates for a personal website to centralize all activities and ensure control over content and audience interaction. The episode is packed with practical advice on website creation, optimizing for search engines, and the benefits of direct audience engagement through a dedicated platform.

Quotes:

"If you don't have a website, how are people going to find you?"

"When you make a platform that you don't own your main home base, you are building your house on rented land."

The Necessity of Having a Website

- Dave discusses the importance of having a dedicated website for your podcast to ensure discoverability and accessibility.
- He emphasizes that relying solely on social media platforms like Instagram or TikTok can limit direct engagement with your audience.

Why a Website is Crucial for Interaction

- A website provides a centralized platform for listeners to interact, contact, and share your podcast.
- Dave shares a personal anecdote about the difficulty of contacting a podcaster without a direct website link, highlighting the importance of a contact page.

Simplifying Listener Actions

- The benefit of having a single website where listeners can access all necessary actions (e.g., contact, buy a book, sponsor links) instead of multiple scattered calls to action.
- Example of Jordan Harbinger, who streamlined his sponsor interactions through a single deals page on his website.

SEO and Google's Role

- Explanation of how Google Search works and why it favors well-organized textual content, making a strong case for having rich, searchable content on your own website.

Historical Lessons on Platform Dependence

- Dave narrates the history of platforms like MP3.com, Friendster, MySpace, and Clubhouse to illustrate the risks of relying solely on third-party platforms for your digital presence.
- These stories serve as cautionary tales about the impermanence and instability of digital platforms.

Building on Owned Land

- The metaphor of building your house on rented vs. owned land is used to stress the importance of having control over your digital presence.
- A website is likened to owned land where you have full control and stability.

Practical Steps and Resources

- Dave directs listeners to yourpodcastwebsite.com for resources on starting and optimizing a podcast website.
- Mention of future topics like SEO enhancements and website flexibility.

Engagement and Outreach

- Encourage listeners to subscribe for immediate updates and join the email list for additional resources.
- Call to action for listeners to share the podcast with friends who might benefit from the information.

Closing and Additional Information

- Dave wraps up the episode and directs listeners to the Power of Podcasting Network for more of his projects.
- Reminder of the podcast's home on yourpodcastwebsite.com and encouragement to explore further.

This episode provides a comprehensive guide for podcasters on why and how to effectively build and maintain a podcast website, emphasizing control, audience engagement, and the pitfalls of relying on third-party platforms.

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Chapters

00:00 - None

00:00 - Opening

00:34 - Where Are You Going to Go?

01:40 - Who Is Your Favorite?

02:13 - I'm Not Getting Any Interaction

03:02 - The Jordan Harbinger Strategy

04:16 - What is The Purpose of Google Search

05:07 - Story Time With Uncle Dave

06:30 - Right After This

07:38 - What Happened to MP3.Com?

08:09 - The Solution?

09:31 - Facebook

10:33 - Clubhouse the Podcast Killer

11:16 - Do I Need My Own Website?

Transcript

Announcer  0:00  
Welcome to your podcast website, The Ultimate Guide for podcasters. Looking to level up their online presence? Whether you're a seasoned podcaster or just starting out, this show is your go-to resource for mastering the art of building and optimizing your podcast website. From website basics to advanced SEO strategies, we cover it all. No tech jargon, no confusion, just practical tips and actionable advice you can implement right away. Here is your host, Dave Jackson.

David Jackson  0:34  
Hey, if you want to buy something, where do you go? You probably had a name, just show up. amazon.com you want to go watch a video? Where are you going to go? youtube.com More than likely, where he's telling people to go to a website? And that's the first question we're going to answer. In this podcast. Do I need a website? Well, if you don't have one, how are people going to find you?

I'm assuming you want them to do something. Whether that's following your podcast or contacting you. Here's a good one. Share it with a friend. Hey, find this new cool thing. It's over blood somewhere. Just Google it. Maybe it'll show up? Yeah, you need a website, or whatever things you have going on.

You can't just say yeah, just you know, and some people I could use my Instagram. I could use my tic tock. And there was a study where someone asked some people who are their favorite podcasters. And they were able to name them by name. When they asked Who are their favorite tick talkers? They couldn't, it'd be like, Oh, the the one girl with the green hair. And then her husband always dumps water on. Yeah, they have a relationship with tick tock, not so much. The podcaster or the tick talker, I guess we should say, but you need a website.

And so many podcasters go, Yeah, I have a podcast, I'm not getting any interaction. Well, a solution to that is to have a contact page. On your website. I am not making this up. I just had some very kind words said about me on a video podcast. And I went to their website to say, Hey, can I use a clip of that? And you guessed it, not a single contact page, nothing added go to Twitter to finally or x or whatever we're calling it to content. You don't want to do that. If you want people to interact with you, you have to make it easy. How do you make it easy by having one website to remember, ours is your podcast website.com. And you'll see there's a Contact button right there at the top.

Another one is it may be hard to get listeners to act, when there are multiple things that they can act on. That might be Hey, contact me or buy my book, or hire me or visit our sponsors or whatever it is, and now you've given them 15 calls to action. Or you could just have one website. I'll give you a great example of this.

My friend Jordan Harbinger does the Jordan Harbinger show you can find it at Jordan harbinger.com. But he has multiple sponsors. Why can't remember go to this website.com/jordan. And that website.com/jordan And this one, and that one is slash whatever. So what did Jordan do? He gave people one website address to remember Jordanharbinger.com/deals. How was he able to do that? Because he has a website, he controls.

Now, everybody gets all excited about YouTube. And we should it is the number two search engine. But what is the number one search engine? Well, that would be Google. More specifically Google search. And what is the purpose of Google search? Well, according to our good friends at wiki pedia Google Search uses algorithms to analyze and rank websites based on their relevance to the search query. It is the most popular search engine worldwide.

The main purpose of Google search is to search for text in publicly accessible documents offered by web servers as opposed to other data such as images, or data contained in databases. Yeah, it's searching for text. And more importantly, Google's looking for good words. Otherwise, you could just throw up the word Salad and become number one. Google likes words. And more importantly, it likes good words.

Now, this next part, gather round children is Uncle Dave tells you some stories, especially if you're under, say 40. You may not know these, and it's important, and it helps explain why you need a website, we're gonna go all the way back to 1997. Back in the day, it was a website called mp3.com. And all sorts of musicians would put their music on this website. And you could sell your music on that website. There were a lot of users at its peak, it delivered. Remember this is back in 1997. It delivered over 4 million mp3 audio files per day, to over 800,000 unique users on a customer base of 25 million registered users, or about four terabytes of data again, in 1997. delivered per month from three different data centers. It was a big website, huge people were making a living selling music on mp3 dot com. And it was so big that you were like, Well, hey, it's too big to fail. So I'll just tell people to go to mp3 dot com slash my name. What happened to mp3 dot com? Find out right after this.

So I'll just tell people to go to mp3 dot com slash my name. And then it got sued. And then it got sold. And then it got sued and sold and sued and sold soon sold. And everybody who never had their own website lost a path to their audience. They're like, I don't know mp3 is down. I don't know where it went. And my favorite artists, I don't know where to get them. Because in 1997, there wasn't social media. Yeah. Solution. Have your own website. We'll talk about email lists as well. But for now, if you had your own website, people would know where to find you. That was in 1997.

And 2002, was a thing called Friendster. In its peak, it had 115 million users. It was basically kind of a MySpace kind of thing before MySpace. And it was shut down in 2015. But 100 15 million users in 2002. Wow, way too big to fail. Well, in 2003, this little thing called MySpace came along 150 million users as well. And it was bought and sold and bought and sold. I remember when Justin Timberlake got involved there, we're gonna bring it back. You know, he was bringing sexy back and a MySpace. One out of two ain't bad. And in 2016, after being sold to Time Magazine, it got hacked so bad. Like everybody's information, a ears of information. Yeah. So if you had information on MySpace, yeah, and it was not just the dark web, the really dark web. And at that point, everybody ran away from it.

Of course, in 2004, when our good friend Facebook was born, fast forward to 2023 3.5 billion users. But if you weren't around when Facebook came on board, it was like, hey, build your website on Facebook. Go ahead, just put your website facebook.com/my business, whatever it was. There were commercials for that. Everything was going it was so easy was so simple, except you didn't control it. As we found earlier. In fact, last month, they announced that you can no longer live stream into Facebook groups. So you want to have something where you control what you want to do on your website. When you take some sort of social platform and use it as your home base. You are building your house on rented land.

Last example 2019 clubhouse. I remember when people were saying right before the pandemic, a clubhouse is going to be the podcast killer. Well 2024 is here. Five years later, and an APR 2023 They cut 50% of their staff. Not many people talking about clubhouse these days. It is still around But the bottom line is, again, when you make a platform that you don't own, your main home base, you are building your house on rented land.

So do I need my own website? Yes. So that you can inspire your audience to do whatever you want them to do in a way that you control. And it doesn't cost a gazillion dollars to have your own website, many times, it's around $20. That's less than $1 a day. If you're not sure where to start, check out our website, yourpodcastwebsite.com and click on Resources. And we will call it there. We're just going to do one topic per episode. And if you want to get the episodes, the minute they're ready, you can go to your podcast website.com/follow.

That's your podcast website.com/follow. In the future, we'll be talking about SEO, we talking about how to make your website super flexible. Because I see this happen all the time. And many other things while you're out at our website, which, of course, is, you guessed it, yourpodcastwebsite.com.

We've got the email list, which will have additional information. And again, the nice thing about an email list is even if your website goes up in smoke, you will still have access to your audience. And yes, that'll be a future topic. Thanks so much for checking out this first official episode of your podcast website.

Do you know somebody else who's struggling with their podcast website? Could you do me a favor? Forward this over to them or just tell them to go to your podcast? website.com I'm Dave Jackson from the school of podcasting. I help podcasters it's what I do.

Announcer 12:05  
Your Podcast website is part of the power of podcasting network. Find this show and all of Dave's other projects at powerofpodcasting.com

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